Linux Users Group of Sacramento

May 09, 2000 Meeting Notes

Sean "shaleh" Perry and Joey Hess gave a talk about [debian]*.

<Andy's paraphrase, with apologies to Sean and Joey>
[Debian]* is a fully contributed distribution. Meaning, everything was done by people who use (and need) their stuff everyday. People contribute software that they wrote because they can. All Free software Every software package is somebody's baby(or pet project). Sean talked about the deb packaging system [ dpkg]* and the steps it takes to install that deb on your system. A deb (by the way) is the debian package, like a RedHat rpm. Joey talked about [ alien]*(the famous rpm to deb converter, Alien converts amoung 4 package formats, which means it can actually do 12 types of foo -> bar conversions) and about debconf. [Debconf]* is a 'standard' way to automate part of the debian install process.
</end paraphrase>

Among the most notable quotes:
" Debian in Open Source done the Open Source way. "
" [Corel]* has given nothing back to debian."
" [LinuxCentral]* has always come through for Debian."


Debian is designed to be installed and updated/upgraded from the web. Using the apt tools, apt-get, apt-update, and apt-upgrade you can maintain your system at will. (No searching for the rpm!) There was talk about burning your own debian CD. Here is that link to [cdimage.debian.org]*. With this link you can burn your own debian CD with the current build! You can buy Debian T-Shirts at [Copy Left]*

During the break and after the meeting:
There was discussion about boot disks, VA and Viao's, GPL, and genetics(at the little table).
There were 25 people at the meeting. No rain!

Links:
[Debian]* the main Debian site.
[Debian Package Search]*
[Debconf]*
[Debian Bugtrack]*
[Debian Weekly News]*


* offsite links are displayed as [link]*

more next month.
-- Andy

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Brians announcement:
Joey Hess will speak on his new debconf and Sean Perry is open to suggestions as what to discuss regarding Debian, so if have something that you would like to know about Debian, please post it to the mailing list.

Both Sean and Joey work at VA. If you dig around Debian, you will find that they have both contributed signifcantly to Debian. Debian's latest release is now in a frozen state where no new features are added, but evaluation and fixes are made before its final release. The current stable version of Debian is 2.1r5 which was just released this month. This was a minor release with updates to various packages. Often people complain about Debian's complexity, and its dated status compared to other distributions. Joey Hess' debconf will allow a simplification of installion of packages where the installing package can search for predefined answers to configuration questions as it is installed. Debian has required careful thought and attention during installation. It has not been known as an installation that you can pop the disk in, and have a running installation by pressing the _return_ key when prompted with configuration questions. debconf will allow simplifciation of this process, and effectively allow newbies to 'kitchen sink' debian and see what it does. A large majority of advanced Linux hackers use Debian, as it is a solid and stable distribution. It also exibits a sophisticated level of management in its packaging system.

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